大學生了沒 2011-07-26 這些事 男生做就是吃虧?

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25 thoughts on “大學生了沒 2011-07-26 這些事 男生做就是吃虧?

  1. 女生想要的男女平等就是在職場, 學業, 甚至運動方面也受到重視跟期待, 不要好像只有男生才需要拼這些… 男生理想的男女平等就是擺脫以往傳統觀念裡男生需要完全挑起經濟重擔的責任, 還不能夠有任何細膩情緒的表現… 女生追求平等卻不團結努力, 男生只想擺脫責任卻不願”輸”女生…

  2. 文化中 雄不對雌動粗,
    在集體打鬥情況下男不打女, 女就變成被歧視者
    那女是否應告上法院, 男人歧視不打女人
    雌雄基因遺傳 天生就各異, 硬要追求什麼平等

  3. tired of all these sexual inequality talk.  It is ridiculous that companies have to go out of their way to promote female managers just to “look” equal.  I’m sorry but men are more effective than women in the business world the majority of the time.  It’s not because women are less knowledgeable, but simply because the business environment to males.  Dinners, drinking, tough negotiations with other men, etc are all situations where a man may be more favorable than a woman.  Why are sports separated by sex? Because men and women are biologically different where men are favored in many sports.  There is nothing women can do to change the fundamental differences between men and women.  Men and women are not only biologically different, but socially constructed to fill different roles.  Before women can call for the reconstruction of society, they have to be prepared to be treated equal in EVERY WAY, not just in ways that benefit them.  Having men pay for everything is one perfect example.  If women want to have the same financial benefits as men, they should bare the costs as well.  

    • Undeniably men and women are biologically different, and there’s nothing to be done to change that. But when you talk about the ‘business world’ and all that drinking and socializing, is that part of biology? Or is that “business world” cultivated long ago by males? If it’s not biology, then why isn’t it up for a change? You talk about wanting women to pay for “everything,” but somehow they’re not supposed to be managers in the business world because they’re not built to drink and work through tough negotiations in order to earn money to pay for everything. You make a lot of sense.

      • Did you read the entire paragraph? Biological part was only related to sports and such.  The business world, as I mentioned, is socially constructed to favor men.  However, the professional field is slowly shifting toward a more equal balance.  This is not enough to women though, they want COMPLETE equality in every aspect when men and women are NOT created equal.  I didn’t mention ANYTHING about women needing to pay for everything, but simply bare an “equal” part in the costs of living.  You’re saying until men are women are completely equal in managerial positions, women are JUSTIFIED to not pay the costs of equality.  In other words, you are saying women are entitled to the benefits of sexual equality, but they don’t have pay the costs of it until they are satisfied – while men have to keep giving and giving (purposely handing more managerial positions to women even though subjectively they believe men are better for the jobs AND paying for living costs) UNTIL women decide “hey, this is enough, maybe i’ll bare the costs now.”  

        • I really do think it is more of an individual’s different situation. There are also the exceptions that women might be better in some area of a business corporation than men. As long as it is selecting the best person for this job, it surely does not matter that much whether he/she is a man or a woman. It’s more of a traditional image that men are the dominant part of the business world, but there are gradual emerging changes. What I personally think, nowadays, the distinction between men and women really wasn’t that much at all. Women can do mostly what men does anyway and many men are now not the breadwinner of the family and society is accepting it, so the problem highlighted by the show is not really that severe…..(just personal opinion.)

  4. 說到底是我們的父權社會看重陽剛性特質 (masculinity),所以男生哭會被視為陰柔(feminine)不被社會接受但女生本來被社教化 (socialized)成一定要擁有陰柔特質(femininity)所以被視為理所當然。老蕭的長相身型傳統上也是被視為不masculine吧,可是他的受歡迎和成名也打破了這些,可能跟他天生的才華有關。
    社會傾向讚賞嘉許masculinity陽剛特質,這也解釋了為什麼看到女生比較man/中性一點大家比較能接受,反而陰柔一點的男生就會被排斥甚至被霸凌

  5. 其實節目裡最色的是陶晶瑩吧。。。超愛講一點不好笑的黃色笑話。標準的天蠍座。。。

    • 容許女性在前線作戰的國家: 紐西蘭, 加拿大, 丹麥, 芬蘭, 德國, 法國, 挪威, 以色列, 瑞典, 瑞士及塞爾維亞

  6. 一開始好像要討論男女平等以後男生壓力越來越大, 到最後變成發現其實台灣還是男女不平等… 什麼 “男生輸女生很丟臉” “都是讓女生”… 平等個屁.

    • I agree, I find it causal and common that a guy holds a girl’s waist or having the guy’s hand around the girl’s shoulder during a photo shot. I won’t take it as a disturbing or harrassment act. P.S. I am a girl.

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